Wisdom Rising

How to Connect with Your Spirit Guides and Spirit Team!

• Christine Renee, Isabel Wells, and Shantel Ochoa • Season 2 • Episode 5

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We've all heard about our Spirit Guides, and if you've followed Shamanic techniques, chances are you've heard about Power Animals too. You may have even been taught how to find your Reiki guide or connect with Archangel energy. But when it comes to connecting with your Spirit Team, a lot of spiritual seekers and practitioners feel lost.

In today's episode, join us, Christine Renee and Shantel Ochoa, as we share personal stories and transformative practices that can help you establish a deep connection with your Spirit Guides, Power Animals, Guardian Angels, and more.

This episode delves into the significance of connecting with your Spirit Team, exploring practical techniques for establishing a relationship with your guides. The conversation emphasizes gratitude, free will, and the unique makeup of each person's spiritual support team, while sharing personal experiences to inspire listeners on their own spiritual journey.

• Understanding Spirit Guides, Power Animals, Guardian Angels, and more
• Building tangible connections with your spirit team
• The importance of gratitude in spiritual practices
• The roles of different members of your Spirit Team
• Techniques for recognizing signs and messages from your guides
• Our personal experiences with our Spirit Teams
• Tips to actively invite your guides into your life
• And so much more!

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Speaker 1:

It's time to remember your divine purpose and limitless potential. Welcome to Wisdom Rising, the official podcast of Moon Rising Shamanic Institute. Join shamanic Reiki practitioners Christine Rene, isabel Wells and Chantel Ochoa as we guide you on a journey of radical self-discovery and spiritual guidance. Each week, we'll dance through the realms of shamanism, mysticism, energy, healing and personal development to illuminate your path to true healing and self-sourced wisdom Through weekly inspired conversations and interviews with leading spiritual and shamanic practitioners. We are here to help you acknowledge, reconcile and balance your energy so that you can awaken to the whispers of wisdom rising from within. Hello, hello and welcome back to another episode of the Wisdom Rising podcast. I'm your host for today, isabel Wells, and I'm so excited to introduce today's podcast episode. You're going to be joining our Moon Rising founder, president and visionary, christine Rene, as well as our mystic Chantel Ochoa, in this conversation about our spirit team. As our mystic Chantelle Ochoa, in this conversation about our spirit team, we've all heard about our spirit guides, and if you've followed shamanic techniques or listened to our podcast for a while, chances are you've heard about power animals too. You may have even been taught how to find your Reiki guide and build that connection during your Reiki training or gotten some tips and tricks on how to know that your spirit guide is with you, but when it comes to actually connecting with your spirit team, having a tangible connection with them, a lot of spiritual seekers and practitioners feel lost. So in this conversation, christine and Chantel are going to explore tangible techniques and their personal experiences to help you understand how to connect with your spirit team once and for all. They talk about the importance of gratitude, who the members of your spirit team are, what their different roles are, how you can connect with them, and so much more. So this is a fantastic episode to dive into if you're looking for more tips and tricks on how to connect with your spirit team and really develop a working relationship with them in your own spiritual practice.

Speaker 1:

Before we dive in, don't forget that if you're listening to this episode in January of 2025, we have some amazing free opportunities coming up for you this month. On Wednesday, january 22nd, at 5 pm Mountain Time, 7 pm Eastern Time, we have a workshop all about the shamanic perspectives of inner child healing. So if you've been wanting to do some inner child healing, be sure to head to the link in the show notes to register for that event, as well as on Wednesday, january 29th, we have another free workshop on a shamanic journey to heal the chakras. So this is where everything that we've been covering on the podcast this month comes together so that you can experience a guided shamanic experience, a guided shamanic journey to each one of your chakras to bring healing and balance to them. That is also at 5 pm Mountain Time, 7 pm Eastern Time, and the link to register for both the live event and the recording is in the show notes as well as.

Speaker 1:

Be sure to join us next Monday, january 27th, at 9 am Mountain Time, 11 am Eastern Time, over on our Moon Rising Institute Facebook page for another amazing live conversation. Next week, on the 27th, we're going to be diving into the shamanic perspectives of manifesting. This is a workshop that we recently taught in person at Houston and we're going to be bringing it into the online space, exploring the shamanic perspectives of manifesting and abundance. So if you're interested in joining us live for that conversation and following Q&A, be sure to head over to our Moon Rising Institute Facebook page next Monday, january 27th, at 9 am Mountain Time, 11 am Eastern Time.

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And, of course, don't forget that our Soul Rising Shamanic Reiki course is still open for enrollment. You'll learn more about it at the end of today's episode, but for now, just know that if you feel called to walk the shamanic path, to awaken your intuition, to heal your traumas and limiting beliefs, to step into connection with yourself, with nature, with the divine and so much more that maybe this course is for you, feel free to head to the link in the show notes to learn more about the course and book a free call with us to learn more about if this is the right fit for you, if this is the next step on your spiritual journey. Early bird pricing is available until the end of this week, january 25th, and then we'll step into full pricing. Classes start on February 3rd. We moved the start date out a week, so classes now start on February 3rd to give you more time to make the decision and answer the call of your soul.

Speaker 1:

With all of that said, be sure to check out the links in the show notes for more information and come join us in our Shamanic Mystics Facebook group to join a community of over 4,000 amazing individuals who are walking this path and doing this work so that you can find your spiritual community and tribe. We'd love to see you join us in that spiritual online space. But in the meantime, I hope you enjoy today's episode. Feel free to share your takeaways with us in the Facebook group and let's dive in to today's episode.

Speaker 2:

Today's conversation is on spirit teams, and so we have talked about power animals and spirit guides, but we wanted to bring it a step further and really flesh out what we mean when we talk about spirit teams, and every single individual person, their spirit team, is going to look very different from one another, and that is perfectly fine. I and so today I'm joined in the conversation with Chantel Ochoa. She's joining with us over from California. We recently she recently did a meditation reading circle for the fires in California, and we just want our everyone to recognize the devastation that California has been experiencing and still experiencing due to these fires. So lots of love and light and Reiki sent your way to that area of the world. Chantel, do you want to kick us off?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so with our conversation today is, you know, most of you know we're talking about our, our, our spiritual teams, but how do we make it tangible, like, how do we work with them in our daily life, how do we connect with them, how do we build a relationship with them? How do we know that they're even near us? Right, a lot of people? That's their question. They're like how do I even know I'm working with my spiritual team, my guide, my higher self? So today is really going to be about that, because when we talk about working with our power animals, we're connecting with the lower world, which is amazing.

Speaker 3:

I work with my power animals all the time. I see them around me, they're in my practice, they're in my sessions. And then in the upper world, we're connecting with our guides, our higher self, our loving ancestors, and so it's really taking in the spiritual realm and being able to connect with them and then have them be tangible in our day-to-day life. And then the middle world is where it's a mirror image, basically, of our, it's a reflection of our world here. However, that's where more of the shadow work is being done and everything like that.

Speaker 3:

So this is why we want to have our spirit team with us and so, as we're doing deeper healings, as we're doing protection, as we're walking the earth experience because things are really heavy here right now we can call in our protection. We can protect ourself and do grid work around us and wrap ourselves up in lovely light images and stuff like that. And so this morning's conversation is really going to be about how we can connect and if you have any questions, start putting your questions in the comments so when we get to the Q&A or if we see them during this conversation, we can start adding them into our conversations. We can answer any questions that you guys are having about how to connect to your spirit team.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely, and it was really interesting. So I had a private client yesterday and she actually came over to my house and we were going to be doing a Reiki level one review class. It's kind of what we had intentioned and I was kind of describing like how I set myself up for a Reiki session and how I like to call in my heavy lifters, my spirit team, as, like the foundational practice of every time I approach a Reiki session. This is what I do and the concept was new to her and it's a new to so many of our students that we have these healing helpers all around us all of the time. But we have this thing called free will and if we aren't asking for their help, they're most likely just sitting on the sidelines watching and waiting and hoping that we call out to them. So by calling in our spirit team, we're literally saying you can have, we're welcoming in this divine intervention for ourselves, for our clients, for the work that we do, and so when we ask for our spirit team to be with us, we're giving that power, that explicit consent to our spirit teams to interact on our behalf, and so that's why we do this right. We really have beautiful guardian angels and spirit guides and power animals and archangels and ascended masters and all of these different entities that want to show up for us. But we really need to call out to them and say I am open and willing to have you interact with me and be part of my life, and so the spirit team really can be this broad spectrum of who is on your spirit team. As Jesus on your spirit team is Mary Magdalene on your spirit team, is Yeti on your spirit team, it can be so broad and wide. Are fairies on your spirit team, it can really literally be anyone that you feel called to interact with. And this is why the diversity can be so great.

Speaker 2:

And I love having these conversations with not only students and clients but also with those who are starting to develop their practice, because oftentimes we come from a religious background and when we step from religion and into more of a spiritual practice, a spirituality-focused practice, we think that we have to leave it all behind and we can't call on Jesus or Mary or whoever it may be any longer. And that's just not the case, and I think part of it where, for me personally, I come from a Catholic background. I was born and raised a Catholic and so it was really normal for me to have saints and angels and mother Mary and like and Jesus and like. All of that was a really part of my normal upbringing Right. So this was not a foreign concept.

Speaker 2:

When I stepped into my spiritual practice and let go of my Catholicism, religion and it was so, it was very normal for me to be like, oh yeah, I talked to them. Oh yeah, I talked to them because in my own history, my own background as a child, this was my commonplace activity. I would step into the church and I'd be talking to the statues and they would talk back to me and it was just like this clear audience knowingness, right. And so the idea is who do you gravitate towards? Who supports you? It can even be plants or a mountain or so. It really has this complexity and diversity and uniqueness to you. What does yours look like, chantel?

Speaker 3:

I really actually liked that you brought in the plant allies and, like trees, nature. That is a really nice grounding one for me. But for I was actually putting some down and I was reminded of when we went to Costa Rica and we did the ritual with the offering to the jungle and then once I gave my offering to the tree, when we went into meditation, when we sat down and did all of that, I had Shiva come through and give me an anointing oil. That was, I was being anointed with oils, and then we had a Peruvian chief on one side and a native chief on the other that was holding ground and welcoming us all in. But there was already so much stuff of like us not feeling connected or overwhelmed by the jungle and all the energies of the jungle that when we did that offering, they came forward and was like we are here and we do welcome you. And I was thinking, as you were talking, like that is such a great way of like a tangible way of yes, we can call in our guides and they come forward. They come forward to heal, to support us, to let us know we're safe, you know, and that's really what that was all about.

Speaker 3:

But I've worked with Sekhmet. She was very much a very strong foundation for me in the beginning of my coming forward as the master teacher portion of my practice and when that started happening, it was like I was going through this really strong integration with her of being healed and learning how to heal, which was very interesting, very powerful. But with my everyday, regular team, I feel the presence of my primary guide on my right. So I know when I'm receiving downloads, that's the direction in which I'm receiving them and so it's just connecting, but it's connecting and believing them. And so it's just connecting, but it's connecting and believing. And that's the thing is that we have to trust and believe that they are here and that we are connecting with them and that we are able to call in on them and say I need you to step into. You know, come help me here or protect me or guide me, and they are like you were saying, they're right there waiting for us to call in on them.

Speaker 3:

But not everybody knows that I had Reiki level one this weekend with two ladies and everything I was talking was just so new and fresh to them. So it was really exciting for me because I was like, oh yeah, you guys like newbies, let's talk. And they were so open to all of it and they had no idea. And the one she goes, really she goes. I have guides and this and that I'm like, yeah, you do. And we were able to work with that a little bit and she just embraced it all and she's so excited and it's just so fascinating to know that, because we have this spiritual amnesia that we don't know anything until we tap in and connect. So that's why these conversations are so important to get the people in public and everyone to understand we got this right. We're surrounded by so much love.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, and I love that. That reminder, like what this just brought up for me was the meeting of my Reiki guide the first time, like we also have Reiki guides or shamanic guides or, you know, spirit teachers, and there you, you, you call forward for the lessons and learnings that are going to come through from them, right? So when I started my Reiki practice here in Bozeman, montana, there wasn't any other practitioners, not anyone practicing on a regular basis. I really was practitioners, not anyone practicing on a regular basis. I really was felt very alone in my community. I was the only one here and this was before the days of Google and Facebook. Like that's how long I've been in it, right. And so I remember for my Reiki masters in 2004,.

Speaker 2:

Part of that was to do a guided meditation to meet my Reiki guide, and I went into this journey, world space and I met this woman and she had this spiky blonde hair and she was just really I don't know she was this fiery, she was just in her power and she was my Reiki guide. I was like cool, you know, like, and I think even that like don't be surprised if you don't have a Buddhist monk as my Reiki guide. I was like cool, and I think even that don't be surprised if you don't have a Buddhist monk as a Reiki guide. Right, I had someone who looked very modern, who was ready to open a new world for me, and so I started my practice, really asking her to show me how to do Reiki, show me how to meditate, show me how, teach me what I'm supposed to do. And she taught me Gosho. Like she was like bring two hands together at heart center, breathe like this, meditate like this. And she, she was like my go-to companion in my Reiki world.

Speaker 2:

And then it was a few years later that you know, the Reiki news magazine came out with a you know title across the front that said new Reiki meditation discovered Gosho. And I read the articles like, yeah, I've been doing that for years. You know, like, don't deny the power of the guides and how they can interact with us as teachers. And and how they can interact with us as teachers. And I find this aspect super enlightening, super helpful, because they come to me to teach me and I think part of that is because my main purpose and calling is to teach. It's yeah, I'm a great healer, but, like, my main priority and purpose and mission in this world is to teach and hence why we have Moon Rising Shamanic Institute.

Speaker 2:

Like I'm constantly teaching and trying to find the best ways to support our students and really help support them through the teachings and learnings, and so I've been introduced to all kinds of guides the incarnation of death Right now I'm working with Mary Magdalene. Like I have so many different guides that will show up temporarily, so just because we have a guide doesn't mean that they're going to be with us throughout all of time. They can come in and just be a a space holder for one specific lesson or learning for us and then they're like great, you completed it. And then they move on right. Know that that is very much a possibility. Like your spirit team, it can be dynamic and can change and shift depending on where you are in your life and what you need.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's well knowing that we come into life with one, our primary guide, that's with us from birth to death. But then we do, through seasons of our life, we do have other guides that step in, like you're saying, to teach us, to lead us, to guide us, and so when those lessons are complete, then they can go, but we can always call in on them again if we need them. But you might feel like there's a new and if you're not familiar with your guides, you might just feel it in an awareness of yourself that like why am I having all these new ideas right? Or why am I, why is this on my heart all of a sudden? That's because you're having guides that are coming forward and giving you that information. So whether you're seeing it, feeling it, hearing it, you know any of the Claire's.

Speaker 3:

Sometimes it's not because you you're just not connected to the guide part, but they are still giving you and feeding you information and then you get to play with that. So now taking that to the next level is connecting with your guides, so it's more tangible for you. And then knowing, oh okay, my guides are giving me this information now, so I'm going to move forward with this or whatever it is, and I read and I've been using this a lot with my clients is there's this three second rule with our brain. So the moment we have a download, a thought or something like get up and go, you know, go for a walk or go drink some water or your whatever it is right you have three seconds to do it before the brain shuts it down and tells you no go, have a seat, no go. You know, we're just going to sit and relax, we're comfortable, we don't need to go exercise, we don't need to go meet new people, we don't need to go to the computer and work.

Speaker 3:

And so I find that those are like spiritual nudges, of like get up and go. And so we have to remember that in our physical body we are a spiritual body and with that we have so much we can tap into that's around us, it's available to us. And so, even like before we started, you know burning sage, or you know, yes, talking to your water. These are all elements not of spirit guide, but elements that help lift our awareness so that we can connect to the higher realms and to different. You know, see through the veil, so to speak, so that we can really pull in that energy because it's all around us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. And so keep in mind that you know your current guides. You have your one primary spirit guide that's going to be with you through birth to death, right, and all of the other players can shift right. So they can have been part of our lives in previous lifetimes or that they're going to be part of our life coming up in the future lifetimes. Like all of that, like remember, time and space is an illusion, like the timelines, the multidimensional realities, everything's happening all at once. So are we connected with our guides? Absolutely, but when you think of it, for example, last year, one year ago, when Chantel and I were in Costa Rica, we were working with Shiva Energy. Absolutely. Shiva was absolutely hanging out with us, protecting us, working with us as the destroyer, right, like his energy really is a powerful, potent energy to work with and that's the energy that we needed to call in and at that time, right. So is he with me right now? Probably not. If I called on him because I needed that potent energy of destroyer, would he come? Yes, absolutely Right. So you can call in different deities, different aspects, different guides for where you are at Right. So this is why, if you call in the seven directions.

Speaker 2:

Oftentimes I'm not reading a script. I want to actually feel into which direction and who wants to come forward, which nature spirits, which spirit animals, which archangels, who wants to come in from this direction. And I let that happen organically. So, like what Chantel is saying, where we're letting that divine inspiration come to us and then immediately go into action. Right, let there don't wait beyond that three second pause. Let it hit, let it. Let you use that information to call out who you want on your spirit team to take that divine inspired action. Right. And so if I'm calling in my directions and I'm in alignment, if I'm attuned to spirit in that moment which is part of the practice, like, the more you do it, the more this easily becomes I'm always surprised at what comes out of my mouth. I'm like, oh, apparently we needed to have a dolphin today over here in the West, or apparently we needed to have eagle in the East, whatever it may be. Like a lot of those times it will come to me really organically and sometimes it's very systematic, like, okay, I have a premise of who I'm calling in for this direction as my baseline, but there's still a lot of play and wiggle room when I allow my intuition to to go there so you can have these relationships just like we do in real life.

Speaker 2:

I think this is the thing, like if you had 20 friends. Think about your 20 friends that you have, right, you have 20 friends in the spirit world and you know them just as well. Like some of them, you are really close to you and they're your besties and you are always going to call on them, you're going to tell them all the shit that's going on in your life and you're you want to ask for their help and their divine intercession, and those are your go-to ones, right. And then you have the ones that you call upon when things are off for certain things, right. Like, perhaps you have a friend that you talk to when you're really struggling in your work life, right. And so they have a background in it, they act like a mentor because they've been in the industry longer than you, and so you call them up and you have a conversation about your career, your work, because they're more experienced.

Speaker 1:

Same, thing in the spirit world.

Speaker 2:

You can have a business guide. You can have a mentor in the spirit world for your career and you're only going to really talk to them when you're focusing on that, not when you're actually working as part of your romantic relationships. Like they're not going to really help in that area because their expertise is in your career, right. So just like you have all these different kinds of friends in the human world and our 3D reality, we can have all of these different friends on our spirit team with different areas of expertise. The cool thing like I had this really unique experience once where one of my shamanic mentors asked me to go into spirit world, into the upper world, and ask for a very specific guide to show up for me. I was looking for a new guide, I was looking for a new helper and I had very clear criteria that I wanted to meet. I wanted my guide to be someone who was going to help me, support me in my marriage. I wanted support to be a better mother. I wanted a support to be um help me in my workspace and developing my shamanic Reiki practice. Like I had all of this criteria and I kind of it was really interesting because I went into the upper world and I stepped into this room and it was like a ginormous computer screen and it was like a dating app. I put in the criteria and it was swipe left or swipe right. I put in the criteria and it was swipe left or swipe right, just like a dating app. And I narrowed it down to like three different guides. I interviewed each one and then I decided okay, this is the guide that I want to work with. The other two can go away.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to work with this guide for the next six months and and it it was just like it was mind blowing to my mentor because she's, you know, 20 years older than me, right?

Speaker 2:

And because of that age gap, like it wasn't in her framework of mind that this was in the realm of possibility. So now we have, you know, whatever our mind can imagine is the way it's going to see it. So for me at that point in my life, having it show up kind of like a dating app, even though I'd never been on a dating app before but the concept was is is known, right? So I could go into the spirit world, add in my criteria this is who I am, this is what I'm looking for, and let it spit out the guides that were, quote unquote, available for hire, for a new agreement contract with me and and then to be able to interview each one. It was the. It was the weirdest, most phenomenal thing. And I had the, a perfect guide that hung out with me for six to eight months and then she was like my, my contract's complete Thanks for working with me, and then she was off. She was off to her next case.

Speaker 3:

That is so fun and you know, what I like about that is it's showing the um because you said she was 20 years older than you, so for it not to be like in her conscious awareness but you as a younger person, that's how it showed up for you and so that's why, like, think outside of the box, we're not here to um. You know, our guides don't all show up in the same way dress the same, looking the same, acting the same. They are all really individual to us. Our experiences are very individualistic how you journey, how your journey shows up your connection with your guides. It really is how you mold it, see it and are open to it. So even at your own level, you might start your practice now and then, 10 years from now, it's a completely different experience because you've grown in self-awareness and experiences and all of that. So I love that. That's just that's so fun. And then the analogy too that you had.

Speaker 3:

What I wanted to answer. There was a question coming in with our guides and if they've been with us for lifetimes. And so one of the things I want to say is you know, I believe in soul contracts, soul agreements, and I believe on that soul level. We contract with our guides and so if you have a guide that's been with you for lifetimes, I believe that's because you created that relationship with them to agree and you agreed to come into. They agreed to come into life with you for multiple lifetimes. However, I feel that we come in with different guides, so I don't know if it's the same one for every lifetime, because I think each lifetime is a different personality, it's a different mission, it's a different, there's purpose and lessons in it. So we you have to see that the guide that's coming into life with you is tailored and is been trained, so to speak, on how to operate and train or to work with you on what your life mission is in this lifetime or a different lifetime.

Speaker 3:

But just wanting to put that out there that when you look at soul contracts or soul agreements, like we call them, is that we are agreeing to work with certain beings like certain, like I work with dragon energy and that comes in so strong for me, and so it's from the beginning of my shamanic work, I've had dragons with me and and um, you know whether they come with me, because I just need them to be in my space for protection or for sessions or whatever, but they're there and I know that's a contract that I have, you know. And so, um, when I think about my guides, I feel like, yes, you've been with me since life, when my dad transitioned, when I was four. That's an agreement I've had with him. He's been with me my whole life.

Speaker 3:

So, whether it's an ancestor, that's with you. You know that's not your guide, but still they're a version of a guide that shows up to work with you, to keep you on your soul's purpose, your plan here. Right, because in our world we can be deviated off of our purpose so easily. We get distracted.

Speaker 3:

We're like, oh, squirrel, you know we're going over here now and now we're all in, all these other life lessons that we weren't really expecting, but their whole plan and goal is to keep us in alignment with our mission here, and so, if you can see it in that sense, yeah, it makes so much sense to me of, yeah, we need these guides to help us, because it's easy to be distracted, to be, you know, like depression and different emotions that are so overwhelming for us here, and so having that external help which is really internal, right, but having that help it can really help us to walk a stronger path and be empowered and know that we're here and it's all in our highest good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's easier to trust the divine timing, the divine orchestration of what's going on in your life and why things are happening the way they're they're happening and when we can have that real crown chakra point of view of going all right. This these are the signs I'm getting, and everyone gets signs a little differently, like whether you see 1111 all the time, whether you are seeing license plate numbers as a way to like tell you that you're on the right path, whether you are always put in the right audience at the right time for the right connections. Like it really is so unique how your guides are, are communicating with you to the best of their ability, to how you are going to pay attention right. Like that's unique. Like I and I I find that fascinating. Like all of the guides are so different. They have their own personalities, like they really do, and so some guides are going to be a lot more stern and strict and pushy. Mine are. They know that I signed up for big lessons and big learnings and they're preparing me so that I can be the best teacher I can possibly be for my students.

Speaker 2:

So when things happen in my life they're not easy, they're not easy. I often I'm like a little more gentle, please. And oftentimes my reaction in the spirit world is very much like a rebellious teenager Like I'm, like this is bullshit. I don't want to do that. Like I get upset with my guides all the time because they ask a lot of me and it's not, um, they're not, they're not easy, and part of it is I know that I signed up for that right, I signed up for this, and when I'm on this path, they bring me the right audio books, they bring in the right people, they bring in these experiences. And I look back and I'm like I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't make this up, which is always why, like I, this might be difficult, it might be hard and heavy. It feels like I want to cry all the time because I'm like, but dang, I could not have made this up, that this, this book, came into my life, this book came into my, this person came to life and this experience came into my life and this workshop showed up and it's all happening and I know, like I know, like I know in my heart that I need to teach X, y and Z and it's going to be coming through because of all of the lessons and learnings I'm having now Right, and so it's very much like I can't deny how things are coming together, which is why I will still like go, fine, I'm still going to do it, I'm still going to, I'm still moving forward, even though it's hard, I will do it Like I, that's, that's my, that's mine and and I know that my guides are the ones that I signed up for, who were going to push me.

Speaker 2:

I don't like it, I can tell you that, and I'm so glad the majority of our students and clientele have it so much easier. Like I love it when it's like soft and gentle. Here's a little 11, 11 number and then they're like right, like that's so typical and I'm like they're kicking my butt over here and I and I love it Right. And you know like all of those experiences help you go. Yeah, I'm on the right path. Yes, I'm on the right path. I wouldn't have, I wouldn't own this house if it wasn't for the, the, my guides and our co-creation opportunities with one another. You know like everything is coming together, like when my guide comes in and says you need to rebrand your whole company and it's going to be hard and but this is what we want from you.

Speaker 2:

My life is of service to the divine period period. Right, if my life is of service to the divine, I'm going to say, okay, let's go. I know it's going to be hard, it's not going to be easy, and we're doing it anyway, and so we move forward. So, with whatever they give me, I kind of have to take a deep breath and be like all right, I signed up for this. My life is of service to the divine. And if my life is of service to the divine, who am I to argue with them? Right, like I have been there, I, I.

Speaker 2:

I remember there was a very clear point in my life where I ignored them, where I pushed them away, that I denied them. I turned off my spiritual gifts. I was in a state of um, a lot of emotional abuse from my ex-husband, like I did everything I could to not follow their plan and my life got more and more uncomfortable until I said, fine, I give up, I give my life of service to you, I let go, I let go of the control, and if it's not Reiki or meditation, I'm not doing it, and I literally quit my job on the spot. I completely shifted my life and said now, what? What do you want from me?

Speaker 2:

They led me to the chakras. They led me to starting to teach shamanic guided meditation and having that offerings which then let them bring in students who were coming into guided meditation classes, who were like I want sessions, and then who wanted coaching sessions and then wanted training. Right, like, had I not listened? And said how do I heal myself? And they said chakras. And then I go well, what should I do with this information? And they say offer guided meditations.

Speaker 2:

You know, all of this trust and knowingness, like it's all happening in divine timing, with reason, and if I show up in that divine inspiration, if I show up in that divine action steps that they're giving me, they'll bring the people, they'll bring the money, they'll bring the resources, they'll bring the anything that I actually need to have, show up in my life to live out my purpose, which of being of service to my students, to my clients, so that they can heal themselves and, ultimately, others.

Speaker 2:

Right, and so this is who I am, this is what I do, and this this is it's. It's worth it, it's just worth it. It's hard, but it's worth it, and it doesn't have to be as hard, like I'm a huge advocate of having our clients and students say let this be gentle, let this be easy, let this be and such a beautiful orchestration that I can. I can trust you and I can learn from each and every encounter that I can trust the process so you don't have to do it Like I do it right, like you don't have to do it like I do it right, like you don't have to do it like like ask for what you need from your guides and allow it to show up for you.

Speaker 3:

And that's an important part right there, because I think a lot of people are they can be okay. So, first of all, surrender, surrendering to the service right Of it. Like I am in service, I am surrendering, I am accepting that I need to listen to my guides, this is the path that I'm on, right. But then if it is overwhelming, if it's moving too fast, we can't ask for it to slow down, we can say, hey, we need to see that more clearly, we need to feel this, we need to integrate this. And so they will work with us.

Speaker 3:

Because I've worked with a lot of people and even in my own experience man, it is heavy, it can be really heavy and really fast paced and overwhelming at times, not so much now, but in the beginning, when everything was really coming at me and then it was like, okay, wait, a minute, slow down. I am human, you know we can only take on so much in one moment. But when it does slow down and you can see it in a more linear or more present way, it is. It's an experience that we are learning and processing and being in service to our path, to what we're here to do. It is so important and so, going back, even I was thinking about yesterday, I did a reading and talking about signs, and she was asking where she should move and this and that, and I have my laptop over here that's connected to a screen, and the screen was totally turned off and my laptop was shut down and then, as I said, the state that I was getting for her, my lap or my screen, lit up in that state and I was like, oh my gosh, and I turned the, I showed her.

Speaker 3:

I go look, this is what's showing up for you. There is no way that my computer could have turned on the way it did. And then there's Arizona or whatever you know, and so I thought she goes, that is amazing. I go yeah, that's your guides. They're there, they're telling you in a very strong, tangible way of working with electricity or whatever. But you know, if we're open to it and we're awake to it, it shows up for us and it really is at what level that we're operating from.

Speaker 2:

So if we're walking, around, go ahead, well, and it shows up on such a like it can be all the time. I think like all of the time, like if we are paying attention, if we're not denying the signs and we're just going, okay, I'm just going to do this thing and I don't know why, but I'm doing it anyway, cause I feel like I'm supposed to like. I feel the nudge, like, for example, I joined a Facebook group last night Like I had, literally, maybe a week ago, took myself out of this group and was like, okay, I'm not getting anything out of that group, I'm getting out of it. And then, literally last night, was like no, go back in the group, I'm like, okay. So here I joined this group and they posted like it was a dead group, like normally, there was no new posts, which is why I left the group. Someone had posted something two days ago and it was an event that I is absolutely in alignment with what I need right now. And so I was told to join this group so I could see the event, the first post that anyone had posted in like over a month, right, so that I could see that event and go to it this weekend, right. And so these are just like the smallest, littlest things. Now, I know and trust my guides well enough that if I had not done that, they would have tried again in some other way to get me to that event, right.

Speaker 2:

And so it's like if, but if we deny them. Here's the thing like, if we consistently deny them and we go, oh, it couldn't have been that. No, I, that's not it, or we, we aren't grateful for their interaction in our life, they'll stop trying They'll. This is why we have to call them in, right. When we call them in, when we ask for their presence, when we utilize our free will to say, yes, please show up in my life, they have greater access. If we deny, dismiss and ignore and avoid those presence in our life, then they can't do anything. And we're not, they're going to, they don't feel appreciated, right, and so they're just going to hang out and not give us the signs. And so there's there's a difference between the people who are actively working with their spirit guides and those that do not, right, like.

Speaker 2:

There are some that, like, I'm active in my intuition but I don't believe in guides, and because they're that little like, I believe in intuition is an in, at least a tiny little in for their guides to communicate with you, and they do right, so they will meet your energy with what you're available for. So if you say I'm not available for that, they're not going to be, they're not going to be, they're not going to be there for you. But if you say I'm open and available for the divine orchestration and to be of divine service and to allow you to show up in my life for my greatest good, knowing that you know divine's will, better than I do, show me, show me what my next steps are, they'll be there. They'll be there for you. And sometimes those lessons and learnings that they put you in can be difficult, right. A lot of times they're showing us here's the event to go to, here's the book you need to read, and sometimes it's like here's a person that is going to elicit the lessons and learning that you need to have in your life and they're going to keep eyeing those weak spots in your energetic field with people, with books, with whatever it is, so that you can address it Right. And so it's very interesting, like I love to kind of feel into this and going knowing that our guides are energetic, spiritual entities, typically more evolved than us but at the same time, if we say no, I'm not available for that, our free will still outs them Like they. Our free will is our, sovereignty is ours. They cannot manipulate us. We have to agree and collaborate for to to make those interactions happen.

Speaker 2:

So if I say I'm not working with this guy anymore, this is a bunch of bullshit. I'm not doing it. Guess what I can. I can, I can, uh, cut them out of the spirit team I have. I used to have boardroom meetings. I used to have boardroom meetings with my spirit time on a regular basis and at one point, because I do have these tantrums and the spirit world, I got mad at everyone. I fired everyone, but like two, I was like you're all, you're all done, you're all done. I want you out of my life. We're we're getting new guides and you know I have tantrums in the spirit world.

Speaker 3:

I have tantrums. They're all here she comes, we're having a tantrum. That's just too funny.

Speaker 2:

Like I'm so odd that way, but I do, I do. I recognize that at this point in my life I will throw a tantrum for some of the lessons that they give me, because I don't want to do it. I totally act like a toddler.

Speaker 3:

No, some lessons are extreme. It's like I don't want to do that. What are you talking about? One thing I want to say is, when you're talking, it's also knowing they're here with their protection. They're going to give us all the messages we need to to grow, to evolve and everything, but they're equally giving us protective messages.

Speaker 3:

So if somebody comes into our life and you have like a negative feeling or some kind of red flag, you know that's going to be them telling you this person's not in alignment with you, right, and how many times do we still take that job or still create a friendship or a relationship or whatever it is, and it becomes a total shit show because it wasn't in alignment and they were already there saying no, look at this, see this, feel that, and we're like, no, no, no, I see the good in him, I want this relationship, this job's going to be great. And then it's it all lays flat. You know we have to go through all these traumas and whatever it is. So when you feel or see red flags, know that your guides to coming at you and saying, no, that person, experience is not for you, let it go. No, that person, experience is not for you Let it go and you will find that life will be more imbalanced.

Speaker 3:

You know, that is like if you get a turn right when you're supposed to turn left, turn right. Just listen, just do it, pay attention to the signs. And we have to be, like you know, hyper focused on some of that. Sometimes, I mean it comes in flow, but sometimes we do need to pay attention. And I'll say I connect this more to my son, but I was driving and I was. I came to a stop sign and there my window I swear it was only cracked open like this much, and so I went to go through the stop sign at the same moment, a um, what are those? The dandelions, right? Is that what they're?

Speaker 2:

called.

Speaker 3:

The whatever Yep. One of them, which represents Austin for me, flew into that crack, floated and landed on my knee or my leg and I stopped. I stopped driving because I was in awe that this whole experience happened At the same time. My car drove like flew through the stop sign. That like is so crazy because if I would have kept going I would have been t-boned.

Speaker 3:

But because that came through, caught my eye, got my attention and I listened, I didn't just go, oh, that was really neat. I was like, wait a minute, this is a message for me and I listened to it, and so sometimes it can be that subtle but huge coming through and so it's just paying attention. Yeah, what are your numbers? What are? What is coming through for you? Is it actually like, are you feeling it? Or is it conversation that you're having? You know cause we can have a conversation with it? And knowing it's not our imagination, knowing that we are not making this up, when we are connecting with our guides and our spiritual team, they are here, whether you see it in your mind's eye or you're hearing or feeling it, know that when it comes through, that that is the messages that you're meant to have and you are truly connecting and having a conversation.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely and to recognize that, noticing this, this experience like a guide, can be a loved one that has passed away, Like they can show up in that capacity for you, and I think that's can be really relieving for a lot of people to know that if our loved ones have passed and they have crossed over into the light, they can then show up in another role for us that can be, allow us to feel that that beautiful loving connection still, even if they're they're no longer in with us physically. So know that too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and, like you were talking about earlier, even connecting with nature. Go out into nature, yeah, and like you were talking about earlier, even connecting with nature, go out into nature, let nature be a guide for you, let the trees be a guide for you. Like you know, um, there's so many, so many different things. People show up in our life too, because they are being divinely guided. Right, sorry, but all of that is when you see it and you feel it, and if it feels in alignment and it speaks to your heart, it's absolutely for you to pay attention to. Yeah, and we just get so distracted in our thoughts and we're busy living life, but then it's like no, you start connecting, like, oh my gosh, I had this happen today and that happened today. And you just feel like you're vibing so high and you're in this magical day and it's like everything is happening for me because you're in your alignment, you're doing exactly what you're supposed to be doing. You're fully in alignment, you're lifting your thoughts and your emotions. You're vibing in this energy that when you walk into a room, everybody sees you, they feel you, they want to connect with you. Everything's happening for you and it's like suddenly, the clients come, the opportunities come. Everything just shows up because we are manifestors. So it's like, as we are co-creating with our guides, our spiritual team, with the divine. This is what our purpose is. It's like, and the opposite happens as well.

Speaker 3:

When we're in our low vibration, everything falls apart. Nothing shows up. No opportunities show up. So you can see where you are consciously Are you in a lower vibration or a higher vibration? Because we're going to. It's going to match our frequency. It's going to bring forward to us what it is that we are feeling and what our inner, where our energy level is at. So play with it. If you are feeling like wow, today's a really heavy day, have that awareness and shift it. If you feel like my guides aren't coming, speak to them. I want to see you, I want to feel you, I need messages, whatever it is, keep it open be playful with it.

Speaker 2:

Well, it was really interesting that you said that, because the last two days I've been having nightmares, like really I haven't had nightmares in years, and these are like, like like close to death nightmares and I'm like what is going on Right, like I? I last night, before I went to bed, I was like pause, stop. We're going to sage, we're going to Paul Santo, we're going to clean my energy space, and I was sitting in bed and I'm like I'm in the energy of worry, I'm in the energy of anxiety and just like with our Reiki precepts, the first one is just for today, do not anger. When you move out of anger, then you may be in worry. So, and then it says just for today, do not worry. Well, what's the next one? Just for today, be in gratitude. You can't have both of those emotions at the same time worrying, gratitude, and so one of the best ways to move out of that anxiety is to go into a space of gratitude and when you are in gratitude for your guides, for these signs, for your power to come into you, to call back your power, then you're in alignment. For to do my work Honestly, I'm going to bring like trusting that the universe is going to bring you all of the abundance to do my work. Honestly, I'm going to bring like trusting that the universe is going to bring you all of the abundance, all of the support, all the resources that you need so that you can then be kind to all living things right, like.

Speaker 2:

I love the way the Reiki precepts are set up, because it's a reminder that if you are in worry, move into gratitude, and so when I last night I'm sitting in the bed, I have this recognition that, okay, I've had two pretty significant nightmares within like 24 hours. This is my, this is me, this is me not being in my full power and my full sovereignty. So I call my power back. I asked for my guides to be there. I remember that the whole animal kingdom will show up for me If I call on them. All of them, every single animal in the animal kingdom will be there for me if I desire them to be. So I call everything in, I call all of my helpers in, I call in my guides, I call in my support team and I say I'm going to give myself Reiki and I'm going to ask for you to continue the session while I sleep. Give me Reiki all night long if that's what I need and it's for my highest good.

Speaker 2:

I slept amazing. I fell right to sleep. I woke up without having any kind of negative dreams and I woke up feeling amazing. Why? Because the night before I called it all, I called my power back and I asked for my guides to be present with me, to show up for me and to have complete gratitude for their presence in my life.

Speaker 2:

All of it, right, and so it's really this recognition of am I in alignment or am I out of alignment? Well, clearly, if I'm having nightmares, I'm out of alignment. Something is going on, whether there is negative entities running around, whether this is something going on in my psyche, whether this is a limiting belief that's showing up. Whatever it is, the answer always is go to gratitude, get into alignment, trust that you have this access to an abundant amount of power and all of these guides are going to show up for you, to help you, to be of service to you, just the way you are of service to them and to your soul agreement. My soul agreement is to teach, to be present. Right, then it can. We're in this two-way flow and it's such a beautiful thing and I'm so grateful, and this today, I am so incredibly grateful that I didn't have a nightmare and then I had Reiki all night from my guides and I feel amazing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and that's another thing is calling in for them to come and help heal you. And I did that, you know, as I've been sick and it's interesting that you said that about like you felt like you're like dying or something. I was having that last week and I even told my husband I go there's, I feel like, there's like this part of me that is like transitioning. He's like what are you talking about? And then you know he doesn't like. He's like we're not talking about that. I'm like I'm just telling you and he goes well, you're probably going through your own level of death and rebirth, right. And I'm like, yeah for sure.

Speaker 3:

But my guides were telling me last month or in November that I was going to go through what I'm going through. Like I needed the time to rest, to be home, to be down, and they were already giving me all of the messages of it. Did I think it was going to become like a sickness? No, you know, and I've had this cough forever, but not really it feels like it's forever, but anyways, um, they were already preparing me for what was to come, because I needed that time to be home, to rest or whatever it was. But then at the end of it, like um, at the end of last week, I was like you know what? I laid in bed. I called them in. I'm like I need you to come. I called in Raphael and I called an Archangel Michael and I called in my dragons and everyone just to come through. Like yes, come through and give me all the healing.

Speaker 3:

And literally, when they showed up, they're like that's what we're here for, like we are here to help you and to assist you, you know. And so then they did all this healing on me and then from that, it showed me where I needed to clear my chakras, where I needed to do some cord cuttings, where I needed to do some releasing, where I needed to be in gratitude. Like it literally they were showing me all of these steps of what I needed to do in that healing and that, once I did that, I felt like the stuff in my chest was starting to break, like I could hear it. I could hear it crackling in my chest. I could feel like breathing easier, like all these things started happening and I was just like in awe of it, like thank you so much, because I really, really needed that.

Speaker 3:

But it was almost like my own resistance of not calling them in and not asking for the help, you know. But then they're saying I was getting the message go lay down, go ask for the help. And I listened and then it was just like this instant the next day I woke up, it was like a veil was lifted off of me. Am I still in the process of it? Yeah, the the end of the healing? Yes, but the veil was lifted, like I was in this brain fog and so that healing was so powerful and it was literally me just surrendering to. I'm here, I'm available, just help, I need you.

Speaker 3:

And they all just came in like rushed in. It was so insane to like visually see that. And I was, and I had Archangel Michael with his knife and he, like you know, he stabbed me with it. I mean, they come in rough sometimes, but you know it's like but he, what he did was when he stabbed me, it opened up where I needed to do the healing Right. And then, and then, yes, and then there was other parts that came in and ate all of it and was like, and I was like, oh, wow, okay, okay.

Speaker 3:

And once all that was done, I was able to still inhale it and I was okay. And I mean it's just it's, yeah, it's amazing. I love what we do. I love how it shows up and there's no fear.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, oh my God, I think, right, there is. That's a really beautiful example of what a shamanic Reiki session can look like. Right, like we have this capacity for big, big guides to show up, big, like clearly spirit advocates for our health and healing. Like, yes, archangel Michael is going to show up with a sword, he's going to cut something he's going to, he's going to cut and then ask questions later. Like that is his style, right, so he is going to.

Speaker 2:

He's not going to think about it, he's just going to do it and then he's going to let whatever needs to happen happen. And you know, if Archangel Raphael needs to come in or whoever right, like when these archangels, when these guys show up, when we are open and available and ready for healing, we have to let go of the resistance, right? I think that is so, so much a part of it. It's like, if we let go of the resistance, we come into a place of surrender. We ask for the help. They can do all of the things. They can do all of the things, right. And so it's, how do we get to this place of allowing ourselves to be in a state of surrender, to be in a state of, yes, please come and help me and allow whatever to happen, happen in whatever way they show up to, and I love that. This is the point of the clairvoyance development where we can see the scene play out. We can see that they they stabbed me, or you know, archangel Michael, for me, is also very potent, like he will go to war for me, right, and so to have him and Shiva beside me when things are getting dark, I'm like, I feel that I can be in my power, knowing that they're there with me. So if you are in that position of like, you are ready to start developing this trust in the universe, trusting your guides, trust in your team, please, please, please, check out soul rising. This is our four month shamanic Reiki practitioner training. You are going to get the Reiki level one training along with how to shamanic journey while we do this deep shadow work, while we start developing our teams out, and it's a profound experience. All of our students have these amazing testimonials. If you are currently watching this and you have a share for us, please put it in the chat box. Please head over to our shamanic mystics moon rising group on Facebook. Share your experience, because people need to hear it.

Speaker 2:

I have seen miraculous physical healings, emotional, mental healing, spiritual healings, all of it and I think one of my favorites is I. We had a student a couple of years ago who came in and basically said that she was afraid of spirit world. She was afraid of all of it. She had a cemetery very close to her home it was like in her backyard practically, and she was afraid to go outside, like she was afraid of all of the spirits and just watching her transform into her power and going nothing can touch me. I know my guides are with me and everyone is here to support me Was just this amazing, beautiful, miraculous transformation to another student who recently took our program, who had severe symptoms of MS, had been using catheters for 20 years and basically reversed her MS to the point where she no longer needed catheters. She was using them for 20 years. She had a miraculous healing and it allowed her to go to the bathroom on her own. Like I can't make this stuff up, you know what I mean. Like it's amazing. It's absolutely amazing, when we allow ourselves to do the work, to really be open and ready to heal, how our life can transform physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually all of it.

Speaker 2:

If you're ready, if you're ready for healing, I want to invite you to come join us. Know that we're in early bird pricing until Friday and we would love to support you If you have questions, if you've checked out the website, if you listen to some of the podcasts, if you're ready to say yes, there is a link on our website to join, whether you're paying in full or with a payment plan we do have payment plans available or if you feel like you need support if you have questions. You want to know more of the details, feel free to reach out to me and we'll. We can jump on a call or, you know, message me on Facebook messenger. We can. We can leave voice emails back and forth. Whatever it may be. Whatever will work for you.

Speaker 2:

The biggest number one question that we get is can I make the calls? And this is what we do for our clients. We will take everyone's schedules about a week before we start and I will figure out how to make sure every single student can come to one call a week. We will ensure it that you can come to one call a week. So we might have four calls a week, but you only need to come to the one call a week. If you love the calls and you can make more than one, you can absolutely come. Know that we that this is.

Speaker 2:

This isn't a lightweight program. This is at least a four hour a week commitment with pre-recorded videos, companion workbooks, activating actions, guided meditations and a huge amount of support, whether you're getting support from your, your, your um co-students or from your circle mentors, like we have got, like I had a student yesterday who's like oh my gosh, I can be in a group where people aren't going to think I'm crazy for seeing, hearing. I had a student yesterday who's like, oh my gosh, I can be in a group where people aren't going to think I'm crazy for seeing, hearing and feeling things. I'm like exactly that. That is a great reason to join, because you are going to be amongst people who are like you, who are spiritual seekers, who are having these experiences and want them validated. You're, this is the place for you. It doesn't matter if this is the UFOs in your backyard, the orbs on your camera, the nudges that you get, the clear signs that your spirit team are giving you, and anything and everything in between. You're gonna be amongst your people and that feels so freaking good.

Speaker 3:

Yes, it does. And Sarah says words do not exist to describe how incredibly life-changing the course is. So thanks for that, sarah, but absolutely like as a previous student, and how much it has changed my life being able to do this, being able to tap into the energy, the realms, my spirit team, having the support, having the cohorts I still have, you know, I still have that. From what core? Having the cohorts I still have, you know, I still have that from what? Four years ago, three years ago. So it's, it's just an amazing system like course and program that we offer here. So I hope people do like hear it, feel it and just act on it. Remember you have that three seconds. If you feel it, act on it message us Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

I love that. Well, until next time, may you awaken to the whispers of wisdom rising from within.

Speaker 1:

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