Wisdom Rising
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Wisdom Rising
Mountain Magic: Reflections from Our Shamanic Reiki Retreat
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Sacred ground has a way of speaking directly to our souls and opening us up to magical experiences. In this episode, Christine, Isabel, and Shantel all gather together to reflect on the magic that was created in the first Moon Rising Shamanic Reiki Retreat.
Our first Shamanic Reiki retreat together revealed profound truths about ceremonial living, feminine connection, and the power of intentional containers. From inviting participants to find their personal trees as energetic allies, to experiencing a traditional Lakota sweat lodge that sparked incredible vulnerability, we witnessed what happens when women are given permission to simply be themselves in sacred space.
From powerful vulnerability to transformative Shamanic work, this retreat exceeded our expectations- and today we're sharing our top takeaways. In this episode, we cover:
- Connecting to the sacred land in Clancy, Montana
- The ceremonies and intentions we set for the retreat
- Ceremonial living and spiritual surrender
- Awakening feminine connection and empowerment
- Finding personal tree allies and nature as spiritual guides
- Our experience with a traditional Lakota sweat lodge ceremony
- the synchronicity and flow that guided the retreat
- Support from the natural world (hummingbirds, butterflies, hawks, elk)
- The power of showing up exactly as we are
- Moments of powerful growth and expansion
- Our top takeaway and experiences over the weekend
- The power of energetic alignment and sacred living
- And more!
This conversation reminds us that we can live a life where every moment is ceremony, every tree is an ally, and your divine nature can fully express itself.
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Welcome to Wisdom Rising
Speaker 1It's time to remember your divine purpose and limitless potential . Welcome to Wisdom Rising , the official podcast of Moon Rising Shamanic Institute . Join shamanic Reiki practitioners Christine Rene , isabel Wells and Chantel Ochoa as we guide you on a journey of radical self-discovery and spiritual guidance . Each week , we'll dance through the realms of shamanism , mysticism , energy , healing and personal development to illuminate your path to true healing and self-sourced wisdom Through weekly inspired conversations and interviews with leading spiritual and shamanic practitioners . We are here to help you acknowledge , reconcile and balance your energy so that you can awaken to the whispers of wisdom rising from within . Hello , hello and welcome . Welcome back to another amazing episode here on the Wisdom Rising podcast . In today's episode , christine , chantel and I are all sharing the mic a really rare occurrence , a rare treat here on the podcast to share our top takeaways from our recent shamanic reiki retreat . Although we've each traveled across the nation to teach workshops in person , this is the first time that the three of us came together to host a weekend-long retreat up in the mountains of Clancy Montana . It was truly an incredible experience , full of sacred ceremonies , drawing exercises to unlock our subconscious , a traditional Lakota sweat lodge , drum circles , fire ceremonies , scrying , card readings , soul connection , vulnerability and so much more so . In today's episode , christine Chantel and myself all share our top takeaways , the things that we learned from the retreat , the messages we received , as well as the moments that we were really inspired and in awe of our participants , as well as our complete gratitude and respect for the woman who runs the land where we hosted the retreat . So this episode is a really beautiful peek into the behind the scenes of what it's like for us as a team to come together and co-host a retreat and allow each of our individual gifts to show up . We also wanted this retreat to be easy and in flow , and we were really surprised by how easy and in flow the retreat was when we surrounded it with intention , with ceremony and so much more . So you'll get to hear all about that in today's episode .
Speaker 1But before we dive in , I do have a special announcement to say that next week here on the Wisdom Rising podcast , we have a very special guest joining us , and we are now taking guesses over in our Shamanic Mystics Facebook group for who this is . Everybody listening to the podcast will know our upcoming guest and I'm very excited to get to air the interview . So make sure to keep an eye on your emails and on your favorite podcasting platform for next week's episode , and join us in our Shamanic Mystics Facebook group . The link is below to submit your guesses and see sneak peeks of the interview . And , of course , don't forget to subscribe to the podcast so that you can get access to new episodes sooner and share it with everyone you know , so that we can continue to make a web of light , healing and awareness across the planet .
Speaker 1And if you have heard us talk about any of our masterclasses , including our Reclaiming the Sacred Self masterclass , know that that course starts tonight , july 28th . But if you are late to the party and wishing you had joined , know that the recordings for all of our masterclasses are available for you to take the courses at your own pace . The link to explore the courses we have available and enroll is down below . So , with all of that said , let's go to the show . Welcome , welcome back to another conversation . We are so excited to be all in the same room to record this one , all in the same energy . We're just coming back from the retreat that
Arriving at Sacred Ground
Speaker 1we hosted in Clancy and today's conversation is all about our takeaways , what we're bringing back , the experiences that we had and all that good stuff . Yeah .
Speaker 2And just to kind of set the scene of where we were , um , clancy , montana .
Speaker 2When you drive up to the property , it's a dusty , dirt road and you are going through cattle guards , you're going through um , you're noticing the gates of the property and it just is open . There's a lot of open land and there's a lot of pine trees and aspen trees and it's just like the moment you step on , like cross that property line it was . I think you both felt this and were like , oh , and we have arrived , like this is sacred ground , this is where magic happens . And the land herself spoke to us and I really feel like our host , the person who owns this land , who owns the lodge , who owns the property , has done a fantastic , amazing job of really allowing the land to do the work , and part of our intention of going up there was to allow the land to do the magic for those who arrived and I think that was one of my favorite parts was just being able to arrive and welcome that . The property , the land , was going to arrive for us and she did . She absolutely did .
Speaker 3Yeah , she was quite powerful . Like just embracing us , letting us rest , letting us be energetic , whatever it is that we felt we needed to do . She was right there to meet us , and the trees and the river , the creek , all of it .
Speaker 1Yeah , and you know it's , it's .
Speaker 1It's interesting because I think so much of that too does come down to the host that we had , that the woman that hosted the retreat was .
Speaker 1She is just this incredible powerhouse of a woman and she's so connected to herself , to the land , to her spirituality , and she does such a good job of actually living by those animist principles , of knowing that everything is alive and every aspect of nature has medicine to bring . And it was so refreshing to be in a space where that's actually being lived to its fullest potential and purpose , because I think so often , even in situations like with Christine's housing , we're in a co-housing community and so there's not land that's tended by one person , it's tended by a community , and so there's this kind of community fingerprint on the energy here . But at the energy here , but at the retreat center , it was just so alive because the host had kind of given the land permission to wake back up again and share its medicine and be present and hold space . And it was just to me it was a really powerful kind of testament to what can happen when we're actually living by these shamanic principles and living with animist eyes and caring for the land so that it can care for us .
Speaker 2Yeah , one of the first things we started off with when , as people arrived and we started our opening ceremony , as we invited all of the participants to find their tree , and beforehand we were like we don't like , the magic that's going to happen here may or may not come from us three .
Speaker 2It could , it could come from one another , it could come from the land , it can come from the food , it can come from so many different places and everyone's going to get exactly what they need out of this . And one of the invitations is like go find your tree so that if you are having a big emotional responses or having a lot come up for you , that you can go talk to the tree about it and not necessarily like use the space to um , what's the word I'm looking for ? Like trauma , yeah , like really , like we , we want to , we wanted to help the space of honoring , but like if people were having those big emotions , the , the tree can handle it , the tree can handle it , the river can handle it . Like all of these different elements of nature are here to support us . And it was so lovely to see that thread throughout the whole entire weekend . Like multiple times a day , people were like oh yeah , I need to go talk to my tree , right ?
Speaker 3Even we were going and you know I was hanging with my tree and knew that it was there to protect and to hold space and to absorb excess energy and to have the wind come through and the because the aspen trees with all its million little leaves just shakes and shimmers and it's just amazing . So you feel it as you're approaching the tree and you've had that connection and when you are like releasing it and how it just shows up .
Speaker 2You know I love I mean my , I love Aspen trees . But I always forget that people don't have that in certain parts of the world , and so when they come out to Montana they're like oh , aspen .
Speaker 3Well , I really expected I was going to have one of the big , mighty ones , and then , when I went and started filling into it , it was like , oh , I'm over here , and but the interesting thing is it was the one tree behind the room that I was at and I was like , well , of course you're going to be the tree for me . So , yes , it worked out very well . Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , and I mean that can be an invitation for anybody . You know , we were talking after the retreat and kind of reflecting on on after the retreat and kind of reflecting on on some of the most powerful moments , and the trees kept coming up and we were sitting here thinking that it's so funny that like we have phrases like go hug a tree , you know , and yet how few of us actually go talk to the tree and go let the tree hold you and go tell the tree your story and go listen and go share in that , you know , because trees have a nervous system too . We know that now . So like go put your back against the tree and let yourselves co-regulate . It's something that we talk about but we don't really necessarily always put into action , and I think that was another part that I really loved about the retreat is it was this space where I was talking with one of the participants , where everybody there had some kind of connection to spirituality , to Reiki , to shamanism , to something Like we were a group of women who knew the things right , like we knew how to do the work , we knew the tools , we knew the energy , and yet I think sometimes there can be this pattern of when you know the things , you feel like you shouldn't have to do the things because you're like I know it all , I've done it all , and then you get caught in this loop of like so I should be feeling better , I should be doing better , and then it just becomes this spiral of like not doing the things because you feel like you shouldn't have to and all of that kind of shame and self-worth and all of these things that we really dove into in the retreat .
Speaker 1But I loved that we created this space where we were all actually doing the work and seeing how easy that could be , like it didn't have to be hard , and also like how nourishing it was when you actually kind of like put that aside for a second and said no , I have this sacred container . I'm going to go hug a tree , I'm going to go take my breaths , I'm going to go do some Reiki , I'm going to go exist and do the work so that I can receive from it .
Speaker 2You know what I think part of the why , why it was so easy , like there was so much ease and flow . And you know , I've been dragging my feet for years of doing another retreat , because in the past they've always been a struggle , like it was a motherfucking struggle bus , you know . Like it was I and I was like I think I remember the time when I was like I'm never doing a retreat again because it was all , um , I had to take care of all the food and I had to take care of all of the planning and I had to take care of all the participants on my own and I didn't have co-facilitators and I . It was all landed on on me and I . It was this .
Speaker 2This was a huge shift into let it be easy , let the land take care of it , let the three of us bring all of our gifts forward , let the host do her thing , let the cook do her thing . Like there was definitely like this shared responsibility between all of these elements and there is like places and spaces where students are are well , not students they were , a lot of them were our past students and but they're the participants were really supporting one another . Like we didn't necessarily need to carry all of it , because it was such a shared container and because every because there was such solid it was such a solid container and the fact that we had a very specific opening ceremony , we had a very specific closing ceremony , we had opening closings in every single day that it really felt like no , we're , we're going to do the um sun welcoming the sun , welcoming the East , welcoming the new day ritual , and then the closing ritual every night , like I felt like we were in this like really sacred container where it became super easy . Yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , and it , you know it's . It's interesting in that because it's again in that container . There was so much returning to ceremony that I loved . We had
Finding Your Tree
Speaker 1a Lakota tribe adopted woman come and do a sweat lodge for us and she and I were sitting after the ceremony which I'm sure we'll talk more about and we were kind of sitting and reflecting on the time in the sweat and she was asking me . She was like how often do you do this kind of thing ? And I was like well , this is our , you know , this is our first retreat , but we travel over the country and we do workshops and we're teaching a couple of times a week and we have workshops online at least a couple of times a week .
Speaker 1And she sat back and she was like so so what ? Like what would you call that ? Would you say that your life is ceremony ? And I was like that's a really beautiful question and I think what I would say is like , because this is what we do and this is the space that I hold , like I would say that my life is sacred . You know , like it , it just becomes this integration of there's not a moment where I'm not in the spiritual or you know I'm , you know , when I'm like unloading the dishwasher or brushing my teeth , you know it's like it's all , it all becomes part of it , and I feel like this weekend was a really good reminder of how you can infuse everything with ceremony and when you take the time to make things sacred , it just really kind of revitalizes and makes life more vibrant .
Speaker 3That vital energy flows with everything when you're in ritual and you do live a ceremonial life right , because it's like even like you're saying , washing dishes and brushing your teeth , the mundane things but if you're not in that energy that when we get that backed up , build up right . So then the dishes build up , everything feels overwhelming . But the moment you check in and you get back into the ceremony , the rituals of yourself , everything just goes back into that flowing ease well , and I was .
Speaker 2I would really love to hear your answer . That sarah of like , do you , do you feel like your life is , is a ceremony , as , like our , I mean , you really have the ceremonialist archetype about you .
Speaker 3I think it's interesting because when you said that , I was like , oh , that's a very interesting way to think and I was like , yeah , you know what ? I would actually say yes , I think that I do live a very ceremonial life . Yeah , because it's like things go to the earth , we , I burn , I work with the elements on a regular and I am , I do commune with the trees , and I'm always looking for the faces and the spirit of the elements . And so , um , being playful with the earth .
Speaker 2Yeah well , even like before you came , I was like I'm gonna buy everything to make my , my face oil and I'm like you're gonna teach me how to do this what you're gonna do today right like it's those those little , those little details .
Speaker 2I definitely see in you like , no , everything can be a ritual , everything can be done in ceremony , and I just really appreciate that element that you bring forward and add that , coming into um , um , into the retreat where it was , like a lot of the workshops that you were uh presenting really either was a ritual or in ceremony .
Speaker 3Yeah , right , yeah , yeah , so it is interesting . That is an amazing question that she asked you , cause I don't . I think when you live in a way you don't think about it , but there's a time in my life where I didn't live like that . You know , I was just very fight or flight and in my stuff and life , and then when the shift happened which is a lot has a lot to do with the people you surround yourself with . So , like you're speaking with the host , mine is my partner , my husband , and so the two of us have really cultivated this and I have learned so much from him and , at the same time , learn my own , and now you know , we teach it and we live it , and it's just amazing yeah yeah , for sure , because even down to the abundance and the little money cups you know the bowls it's .
Speaker 3That's such a simple way of just being in the ritual or the ceremony of your own abundance in life .
Speaker 1Yeah , and we had . We had . It was . You know , christina and I were talking about this . It was such an interesting culmination of all of our different roles and strengths and gifts because online , you know , we have a really good . We have a really good flow built up , like we , we know our roles , we know how we show up , we know the spaces and we've built our team to really highlight that and support that . But then it's like going into an in-person space , especially like a retreat , where it's not just a workshop , where we're all co-teaching or something , it's this extended experience where all of our energies are mixing . It was really beautiful to watch us kind of find our flow in that because , like Chantel's very ceremonial and has the rituals and was leading us in creating things .
Speaker 1So we made these money bowls to call in abundance . We did a drawing exercise to learn about our subconscious . We did what else did we do ? We did something else . Well , we did weave in men . We did weave in men like to weave in all of our past experiences and bring us back into the present . Like there was so much activity that was bringing us back to self from Chantel and then Christine's very in her feminine activation era , you know , and so there was a lot of like ceremony around activating your energy and clearing out your chakras and calling in your femininity and connecting to your womb space and and these kind of like and and working through the sounds of the chakras , like taking this spiritual , sacred energy that Chantel was bringing in and then bringing it back into your body , back into your physical experience , and reconnecting with the fact that , like it's okay to have a body and enjoy being here and move it and make sound and do all of these things that contribute to something being sacred .
Speaker 1Whereas I'm a lot more in group spaces , I tend to just kind of swoop out to being a space holder .
Speaker 1Like I'm not my strength isn't leading people in ceremonies or things like that Like I'm I'm a teacher and I'm I'm a mentor , but in those spaces I'm a lot more just a space holder , and so my role was was leading the calling in of the directions and the closing ceremonies and doing the drumming and singing when it needed to be sung and like holding space for that , and I think it was really beautiful , because I know that for me , a lot of times I get a little , I can feel a little like you know how , like , how's this going to work ? Is it going to feel balanced ? Are we all going to feel supported ? Are our students going to get what they need out of it ? And it was really cool to see how , when we again , when we all just kind of let go and float in it , how beautifully that all came together .
Speaker 1And it was like that in-person connection is so different from what it is online , but we all had this space to show up , to hold space , to lead , to create that sacred energy , and , by the time it was all said and done , we had created something that was so much more than just one of us .
Speaker 2Yeah , it really flowed harmoniously , like because it there was times where you know , on the outside , looking in , it would have looked like , wow , there's a lot of imbalance , like the first day that we were there .
Speaker 3chantelle did the majority of the workshops right , but that didn't mine were a lot of root and um say you like , yeah , because we were doing it in a certain way .
Speaker 2So it's just how it flowed , right yeah yeah , and it would , but at the same time , like , as we were doing that , like we , we were this space hole , like it was , like we all still had these really pertinent roles and it there was no like , frustration of like oh , she got the spotlight today , or whatever you know like that wasn't happening and it was just so .
Speaker 2So it was just so easy . And you know , like um , yesterday on the drive home we were discussing what our takeaways were , and that was my takeaway . Like , this gets to be easy , it gets to be in flow . We get to all show up in exactly who we are and it can be easy and that was this really lovely . It was really lovely .
Speaker 3I think we've set a really strong foundation , you know , because we are here and you know the zoom space . But then when we get together , we can connect our hearts and be physical in each other's physical energy and then just allow us to be us . And I think that's what's important is knowing , outside of moon rising , we are all doing our own work individually , and then we get to bring all that magic together and go oh my gosh , and here we are , and this is you , and this is you and this is me , and we get to collaborate . That , yeah .
Speaker 2And I think that's one of the main intentions that we wanted to bring forward is that we didn't want to have a retreat . That just is what we do in soul rising , what we do in our masterclass . We wanted to really highlight the things that we work on individually and share that with our community in this way and really have that , those powerful moments of like . This is , this is my , my practice right now . This is what it looks like , and I think we did a really good job at that , and I and our participants were , oh , I mean , they just , they just fucking showed up .
Speaker 2They just they just totally were all in , like we from the very beginning , like this is your time , this is your space . So if you need to go take a nap , or you need to go walk down by the Creek or you need to do you instead of attending all of the things , you , this is an invitation to come , but you don't have to . Every single one of them showed up for every single thing . And because we had in the in the schedule like integration breaks , like we had time to go take a nap if you needed to take a nap , and we were on it from
Creating a Shared Container
Speaker 2seven , 30 in the morning until about 1030 every night , but everyone was all in all , in , yeah , Well , the dinner bill helped too , keeping everybody on schedule .
Speaker 1But you know , what's interesting is is one of my favorite aspects of soul rising in the online classes that we do is watching people kind of melt into that sense of community . Like we get on the first zoom call and everybody's a little like there's people watching me , like this is , this is new , this is a new experience and and it's like over the course of a couple of weeks they kind of find their flow and by the end of the four months it's like their families . But what was so interesting was at the retreat . It was like there was a little bit of that energy in the opening ceremony of like okay , here's , here's all of these new women . And knowing that we're stepping into a space where we're going to be vulnerable , not just with our emotions but with our bodies , with our thoughts , like with all of it .
Speaker 1And then we did the opening ceremony and we got like halfway through the first activity and there was just this pop where , like it was like any hesitation , any anxiety , any insecurity , anything , it just popped and it was like and I think part of it is because we did make such a welcoming space where I mean any activity we did , we were all sitting in a circle , and it's like that that hesitancy can show up , that insecurity can come with you , like put it in the circle and we'll all sit here together and understand that we're all in the same boat .
Speaker 1And so it was like , instead of feeling like , oh , I have to be vulnerable now , or like this . And so it was like , instead of feeling like , oh , I have to be vulnerable now , or like this is the time for me to break out of my shell , it was just like this is the time for me to be me , whatever that looks like , and in that , it was just this explosion of well , this is who I am , you know . And I feel like that was really highlighted in the in the sweat lodge too .
Speaker 2Well and again , again , like even in the in the honoring exercise and closing ceremony , like everyone was really seeing and the beauty of who they were and that was just . That was such a powerful exercise , yeah .
Speaker 3And I think , because of the space we were in , we were able to get on the couch and snuggle and be on the couch like on the floor . People were not afraid to be close , you know , and I think in a lot of ways people are like you , don't like , oh , you strangers or whatever , but this was a very close knit group of women that were just free to be free .
Speaker 2Yeah , and since we had what seven of them had already taken some of our courses , a lot of them kind of knew each other from the online space in some capacity and in some cases , some of them had met before in person . And because there was that familiarity of at least of more than half of us already have the foundational skills of how to shamanic journey , you know , like those types of things . And I just thought it was the sweetest , like how in flow we were . We were having a drum circle and a cuddle , puddle , Like we married these two concepts together of like , okay , those who want to cuddle and be close , let's all like throw down the blankets and the sheepskins and all the furs and just cuddle up . And those who want to drum or want to dance , like drum around us .
Speaker 2And at the end of that experience , there was someone who was like around us . And at the end of that experience , there was someone who was like Christine , will you , will you do a shamanic guided meditation ? And like it's 10 , 30 or something like it's , it's the , our sacred bubble had was already popped or not the sacred bubble , but the , the closing of the day had already closed . And they were like please , we want your voice to go to , to get ready to like prepare for sleep . I'm like , okay , and we , it was just all very easy . I'm like , yeah , the drama is still going . Like , let's just , if that's the request that you just wrote , easily rose to the occasion . And here I am in the middle of the cuddle puddle doing a guided meditation . I'm like great , that's fine doing a guided meditation .
Speaker 3And I'm like , great , that's fine , I love that . That was a great moment . I just created this huge bed in the middle of this , just lawn this beautiful thick grass right and surrounded by a thousand millions and millions of stars .
Speaker 1Yeah , oh my gosh , yes , yeah , so wonderful , yeah , you know , and I loved the cuddle , puddle and and just these moments of intimacy in like a very sacred sisterhood type way .
Speaker 1You know , like growing up I I never had that , you know . And it's like we created this space where part of the intention was to reconnect with whatever you want to call that your femininity , your womanhood , your womb , like whatever whatever we're calling that but that space to like reconnect to what it means to be a group of women and the power that's in that and there was so much honoring of whether you didn't want physical touch at all or you wanted to be like right in the middle , and like one of my favorite moments is we had , we'd done this really powerful exercise and there were like lots of emotions being released and all the things . And one of our students goes who wants a hug , like I just want to wrap myself up around you , and so I have a picture of her sitting in my lap with her legs wrapped around me and I'm just like holding holding her because she just wanted to be held .
Speaker 1And it's like I just I just kept finding myself thinking like , whether it was the koala bear hug or the cuddle puddle , or like how , when we were all nude in the sweat lodge and like being connected with with each other and vulnerable in that way , Like I just kept thinking like how different it would be if this was the norm , you know , like if this level of whatever you feel comfortable with , whether that's fully clothed or no cloth , and koala bear hugs or no touch , or like if we were just all allowed to show up and connect in that way , whether that was physical connection or energetic or emotional , whatever it is like the world would be a really different place .
Speaker 2Well , and noticing that they could ask for what they needed . Right , there was a level of , um , this safety that they felt because we were in such sacred space that if they needed something to give , just ask for it . Like I need a hug right now . Or , and it was just , I think , that that amount of trust that everyone kind of felt into , like I can voice what I need and I can be as I am and show up the way I want , and the constant invitation to , to show up in whatever felt comfortable like , and just , here's the spectrum like anywhere in this is is absolutely fine . And so , um , I just I just loved it , and I think I'm definitely in that space where it's part of my personal practice is like , how authentic can you be ? How vulnerable can you be ? What's that ? What's that edge , what's that comfort zone ? Where's the stretch ? And I think every woman there stretched in some way , including ourselves .
Speaker 3Yeah right , Definitely , when they first all arrived to and we just all watched them unfold and tune into themselves and then blossom and bloom and come out , it was , yeah , you can see the transition and even the or the , yeah , the transition and transformation of it and the host and everyone that was of the land that they would come to us on the like this is your first retreat , this is the first time and they were just impressed and like , and even the host was like you give me a second like wind of wanting to have retreats here because she's had a struggle with some of the other retreats before us and so well , now we're like , we raise the bar for her to say this is what I'm available for and this is what I'm not , and I love that .
Speaker 2Well , and I still giggle and smile , like before we even got on the property . She's like you're the most facilitator I've ever had . I'm like I'm the most facilitator . I don't know exactly what that is , but I like it because I think we um , we honor all of the pieces and we can show up in that one that professional professionalism of like no , we're going to have a schedule that we're going to attempt to follow . We're going to have an intention . We're going to sit in sacred space Even before we arrive . We're going to have like there was ceremony before , as soon as we arrived to the land , before the students that we did another ceremony , like there's always these sacred spaces , spaces that we were coming into to keep setting intentions , to keep laying the foundation energetically of like this is what we're here for .
Speaker 3And then down to food , even down to food or you felt nourished because we met everyone's dietary needs , and so there was food for everyone to eat and everyone could feel there was plenty there was like for me .
Speaker 2I think that's why I I I've always I don't like going to retreats . The food stresses me out and just to know , like I P , I literally got on the phone with every single person before they came and I was like I need to know all of your food stuff . I want to know all of the details so that I can honor exactly what you need and make sure you're going to be well fed and being able to come up with the food list and share that with the host . And , like I'm going to take care of all the gluten-free things , I'm going to try to make this as easy as possible on the host for our specialty items . And and I think we were all full always and I've never , I've never spent three days outside my house where I felt that way .
Speaker 3Yeah , no , definitely I'm not a big like breakfast lunch , dinner eater , you know , but I , since I've been here , it's like breakfast lunch and dinner . I'm like okay , we're just eating , but it's , I don't feel , full like stuff . Yeah , yeah , not stuff , yeah .
Speaker 1No , that is satisfied . Yeah , that's been good , yeah , nice , I feel like there was like that word . Satisfaction was kind of like a theme through all of it because it was . It was really interesting because we did before we left for the property , we did our sacred ceremony together , where we were just looking at you know , what are our desires for the retreat , what are our fears , what boundaries do we have , what intentions do we have for the space , so that we were all in each other's energy and on the same page before going in . And part of it was like we want everybody to get whatever they need out of this , whether that comes from us , whether that comes from the land , whether that comes from the food , whether it comes from anything else . You know and and I love that , you know kind of side tangent here , I love how much we kept it focused on the retreat participants , like I think sometimes in in spiritual workshops and conferences and retreats , it can start to feel a little bit like this is the schedule that we have . If you're going to get a benefit , it's going to be from this teacher , this facilitator , this modality .
Speaker 1And we really went in with the intention of may everyone receive exactly what they need , no matter where it comes from . And it was so beautiful to watch how there were some of the women who what they needed was that space to express and to be creative and to be loud and to and to really like get themselves out there . And then we had a student who was like I needed a space to be quiet and know that it was okay for me to be quiet and show up in that way . And I loved watching her , her process , because she had she had shown up in like all black and was having like a lot of personal development and personal experiences that were behind that . And she showed up to our fire circle the second evening and was like you know what ? I think it's time to take off the black , like I've been in funeral mode for so long that this has helped me remember and come back to . It's okay to have joy , it's okay to have laughter . And the next morning she showed up all in white .
Speaker 3And it was amazing , all in white Down the room . That was everything up all in white .
Speaker 1And it was amazing , all right down there necklace everything all in white . It was wonderful . Yeah , yeah , yeah , and I love that she intuitively packed that . You know what I mean . Like I love that she had the white , even though that wasn't her intention , like she wasn't thinking that's what was going to happen , but spirit knew what she would need and let her , let her have it and think about how the energy was to the point where the hummingbirds , the butterflies and how nature just showed up .
Speaker 3That was just amazing too , because we had these the hummingbirds , the butterflies , and how nature just showed up . That was just amazing too , because we had these two hummingbird feeders and they were just like con , no one's like right here , no one's not , yeah , and they would be like oh , like , I want to check you out what's going on and the flutter , and I've never heard
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Speaker 3a hummingbird talk oh , they yeah , you didn't hear him . No , I've heard them . I've never . I do too , but I never hear them talk , just their , their .
Speaker 1They were . They were noisy , they were so happy to be there .
Speaker 3They were like having so much attention and the butterflies would come in and all of it , and so you know your energy is good and what you're doing is right when nature shows up for you even on that um saturday night , we had the the deer , not the deer .
Speaker 2We did see elk , though we did . Elk came through , um so did hawks , and hawks were screeching through the sweat lodge , for sure , but then we had the mule and the horse right at the final . Cuddle , puddle , like was like , I want to cuddle with you , but there was a fence between us so we couldn't come in .
Speaker 1But it was good energy , though , like good grounding energy for them to show up .
Speaker 3You have a little side dog , oh my gosh , little wiener dog .
Speaker 1She was so happy . Yeah , absolutely yeah . And you know , one of the things that I also really appreciated like even outside of of the participants and the land and the , the land keepers and and all of that beauty was also really how the three of us have connected , like I was especially . I was telling Chantel , like she and I have been we've only been in person together once before this and we can obviously we connect online , but it's different and I feel like this trip she and I really got to bond and kind of get to know each other more as people and that aspect of it whether it was like the bonding or showing up for each other , whatever it is it was also , I think , really beautiful to see how much we were each able to receive in the middle of a retreat .
Speaker 1I think it's kind of unheard of for a retreat facilitator to leave feeling fuller than they came and yet we both left , or we both , we all left , and felt like we were talking in the car , like this is the most grounded we've ever felt . This is the most full , the most nourished , the most all of it and like the fact that there are three of us , so that , you know , when Chantel was leading her activities , christina and I could partake in , and vice versa . For all three of us it was . It was such a joyful experience to see that . No , there is a way to do this where , when we're listening to spirit , when we're connected with nature , when we're connecting with each other , we're all receiving . You know what ?
Speaker 2it reminds me of is Chantel's subconscious communication for direction ? No , for what am I thinking ? The Mary Medicine , yeah , yeah , the Medicine wheel that we did , yeah , it was super cool because , honestly , like we were in our own pro , like Isabel and I are in our own process , and then when we actually looked at the picture , like we had the same roundhouse .
Speaker 1Yeah , so for . So , for background here , it was this drawing exercise where there were certain elements that you needed to have on your paper .
Speaker 2You must have a shelter , you must have a bird , you must have a tree .
Speaker 3So you're drawing , like you're getting into your kid , your child , right Cause you're drawing , and you're taking like 30 minutes to focus on your paper and silence and everything , but there's these elements that you have to have , these items that you have to have , and so there's all these certain colors and colors and everything , and then it's interpreted and it's showing you , like , if you have this here and this there , what it all means and how many and yours was so similar . We were so similar .
Speaker 1We , we had drawn kind of separately and then we went to sit next to each other on the road and we put our papers down and we were like , oh , wait a second yeah , so it was .
Speaker 2So it was so interesting and yeah , they were . And maybe different , different houses , if you will like , different um , mental versus emotional , versus spiritual , like , but the , the way we drew , certain elements were very similar and similar colors and the path to the house through the mountains , like , I was just like oh , but we are energetically intertwined .
Speaker 3Yeah , very much so , and that's a great one Cause how many people even came back and read it deeper , cause I need to know , and some were like I don't know if this is connecting . And then they were . You know , sometimes you have to let your shield down , you have to put it down to say can I see myself , even on a drawing ? Can I have this interpretation of me ?
Speaker 2Right , and I think so much of that is like this invitation is like I mean , I remember getting the paper and be like , well , I'll just draw my past life house and my , my happy place in the middle world and I'll just do that Cause that's what I would normally do and go no , no , no , no . Let's actually drop in deeper and go . What needs to be shown now , what needs to to be represented in this moment , and that , um and when I could let it go and go no , there's the trees and there's the mountains and there's the snake . Like it was very , it was very interesting .
Speaker 1Well , and I think in that it was a really , it was a really beautiful example of what happens when you do things in a ceremonial container , Because it's like if you had just given us a piece of paper and we're like draw these things .
Speaker 1We would have drawn something that we knew right , but it was because we took the time to set the intention , to open the sacred space and create that container . Like every Reiki practitioner knows that when you set your intention , it shapes how the energy shows up and where it goes . And so it was really interesting because in that we had the ceremonial space , we had the sacred intention and then we did the drawing . And it was interesting because , like for me it was , you know , my version of well , I'll just draw the middle world no , I'm going to , I'm going to drop in was like I kept noticing that I was reaching for the purple and purple is really not a color that I color with , but it was like every time it would happen I'd be like I , I'm really curious to see what this is going to mean . Like clearly it's meaning something like I would never have picked that up if it wasn't within that sacred , intentional space . And then when you do the interpretation , it's like oh , that's why , and I think it's just power and leadership .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2So in the end , it was exactly what we were interpreting what it was , and I think it was really cool for all of our participants too , because they , right away you know this is the first day we're there it's like drop , drop the struggle , drop the mental mentality , just let whatever shows up show up for you . And I think it set the tone for the rest of the weekend , like let's not think about it , let's just be and let's just process and just trust that whatever's showing up is meant to show up the way it's supposed to show up . So I love that it was at the very beginning . I do too Cause .
Speaker 3I think it would be a lot different if it was like the last day , you know , because it would have been their trans , their transformed version of self . Yeah , they needed that Like it almost feels like , yeah , here's the gateway , here's the kick in the ass Like look , you got shit and you don't even know it . Yeah , look at the
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Speaker 3one that was all black , black mountains , black outlines , and that was letting go . Yeah , what are you letting go of ?
Speaker 2And all four quadrants , yeah , yeah so it really definitely gave everyone to kind of start being introspective and curious like that curiosity , and the weekend really allowed everyone to explore .
Speaker 3Yes , yeah , yeah , you want to talk about the sweat lodge now .
Speaker 1Oh , yeah , yeah , so we had . It was on the second day . We had , uh , uh , like I said , a Lakota adopted member leading us in in the sweat lodge and and we really set this intention before the sweat lodge of this is a sweat lodge for rebirth , for letting go , for um , for releasing , for kind of that again , that death and rebirth . Because really when you go inside a sweat lodge , it's it's pitch black . You're basically in this incredibly hot igloo where it's pitch black , you can't see anything .
Speaker 1And what I loved about it is we all started in ceremony and we knew that this was kind of the big thing for the day , right , and even after , before we dive into the actual intention and ceremony of it , one of the things that I love that came out of the sweat lodge was , again , one of our intentions as a team was for things to flow and to just just move with spirit , go with the flow , et cetera , and the sweat lodge ended up taking multiple hours , more than we thought that it would .
Speaker 1And yet we came back and we just looked at the schedule and we were like , okay , how does all of this need to fall ? And we ended up still doing everything we had planned to do and still ending exactly on time , because we just let go and we're like whatever happens is going to happen , and that I think that flow really started with when we showed up at the sweat lodge and it was like trusting your intuition of who wants to go in the sweat , who wants to be out holding space , who , you know , like Chantel , thought she was going to be able to go in and then wasn't able to , and so she was out and it was exactly what we needed because you were moving all that energy and getting the messages that you got , and I think even just from the start of that experience it was , it was so clear that everybody's being called exactly where they need to be , and and I ended up I wasn't sure if I was going to go in or not and I was like like Chantel had asked me a couple .
Speaker 1Yeah , chantel had asked me a couple of times like , are you going to go in ? And I was like I don't know . Spirit's going to tell me when I get there . And we got there and I was kind of thinking like there should be one of us in there , you know , to hold space for the people that are in the lodge , in the little line and we're about to go in . And one of the invitations in the sweat lodge is you can be fully nude , like you can have all of your clothes on , you can have none of your clothes on , and it's freaking hot .
Speaker 2It's hot . It's a . Hot is a . This isn't like your typical sauna . This is . This is a whole experience of you're going into the womb of the earth and she is going to bake you like the center of the earth .
Speaker 1Yeah , Like by the end we had 29 burning hot foot long stones in the center and you're pouring steam on them and it's just building and building and building .
Speaker 1And so one of the invitations is you can you can have clothes on , you can have clothes off . And there was one of our participants who that moment was really big for , like that moment of I'm just going to be vulnerable . And so I was standing at the back of the line and she was kind of off to the side and and I could see the , the like am I really going to do this ? And like I hadn't planned on going in nude . But like I saw her and I was like fuck it , and just . And she told me after that , like that's one of the moments that she's always going to remember from the retreat is this moment where it's like fuck it , we're all doing this together . And that message , I think , was so clear , whether you were in the lodge , whether you had clothes on , whether you were outside the lodge , like no matter what , it was like fuck it , we're in this together .
Speaker 2Yeah , and that's like those moments were happening outside the lodge too , where women were like , were like fuck it , I want a sunbath nude by the Creek , go for it . And then like it's all , it was all women , you know , and so it was just like and I could .
Speaker 1you could see the ripple effect when she was like fuck it and I was like , oh fuck it .
Speaker 2I mean it's hot , it's sunny , the weather is gorgeous Like great Perfect .
Speaker 3Yeah , it was , and we did have . And it was funny when we were talking last night because if you were on your cycle as women , we could not go into the sweat lodge , and so that was me , and so I was on the outside holding space , which felt perfect . When , when it ended up being told that I couldn't go in , I was like you know what ? Yeah , let's do it . And then it became more ceremonial for me to hold the space . So then I had to go do my rituals to prepare myself to be the space holder and all of that . And then , when we were talking about how you were with the women who were the non-bleeders and I was with the women who were that is so and the triangle of that we created this really strong foundation to do that beautiful work and the energy flowed . And so what was happening in the hut was how in the sweat was also energetically happening to us outside .
Speaker 2Absolutely , and it was really lovely to hang out with more of the crones doing tobacco prayer ties . Yeah , like , keep our hearts open , our hands busy and and do the prayers .
Speaker 1Yeah , you know it's really interesting , as I'm thinking about you said that triangle that we made and I'm thinking about like the , the symbol for alchemy is a triangle with a horizontal line through it and like that's , that's literally the symbol that we were making with all of our different groups and that's that's what was happening in the lodge . Like it was just it was so powerful and like when you're in the lodge , you're , you're drumming , you're drumming , you're singing , you've got the rattles , and like I loved the facilitator who was in there . She was like the way we get through this is by singing . It reminds our bodies that we're still alive , we're still here . Because it's it's such a powerful experience you could just take . You could just take off and be gone , right . And so she was like we sing to remind ourselves that we're human , that we're alive .
Speaker 1And then that was carried outside where you guys were drumming and making prayer ties and holding space for the elements and and just feeling that energy circulate . And it was really interesting because I've never done a sweat before and I was in for all four rounds just kind of holding space for everybody , and I was really curious to see , with all of the releasing that's going on , cause by the time you come out you're like wetter than if you had been in the shower , you know , like your body is just soaked and that's it's so much releasing and transmuting . And I was really curious to see when we have we started out with 10 in the circle and we ended up with five , four and um and it's it's so much energy . But you're in again this like enclosed space and I was really curious to see like is it ? Is it going to stick around ? Like is it just going to be full of all the energy we've been releasing ?
Speaker 1But it was like because of the steam , because of the singing , because of the drumming , because of you guys on the outside , like helping move the energy . It was just this like seamless melting away and transmutation . And I think it was a really for me it was a really poignant example of . I feel like sometimes , when we do the spiritual work , when we're releasing , there's a very clear I'm releasing now and now I'm calling in , or now I'm making the new pattern , or now the healing happens . And it was . It was just like there was no , there wasn't any boundaries in there , it was all just continuously flowing .
Speaker 3Yeah , and being able to just sit and quiet and listen , listen to nature , and we were all in our own , even though we were all in the same bubble . We were all in our own hoop , doing our work , our own sacred hoop , our own energetic you know , and I love that . So it wasn't like anyone needed to be instructed right to go , find your spot or go be quiet or nothing . It was if you had something to say , say it . If not , you want to go in the Creek , you want to do this , you want to spread out , you want to just lay on a blanket Right , you know , meditate . Whatever you want to do , do right .
Speaker 2Everyone was able to do that , and so it's such a beautiful thing to not have to instruct , like there's no need for or necessity to instruct , like people coming out of the sweat lodge . It's like what do you need ? Do you need a water ? Do you need to do a cold plunge in the Creek ? Do you need to lie out in the sun ? And there were some people who did that . They were like , yeah , I just want to lie here in the sun . I'm like , wow , okay , I , you do . You like , if that is what your body needs , go for it . And just to recognize that the variety is okay , that you have permission to be exactly who you are , even in these really , uh , like potent , transformational moments and offerings , just everything's good . And I just remember the host of the retreat . She was our fire , our stone carrier , right , and she went in the last , the last round , and she came out . She's like , oh my God , I got to go make lunch , but we're so late . And I'm like , oh no no , no , we're all good , we are going to flow .
Speaker 2You take your time , you do what you need to do . We're not in a rush and that constant reminder of nope , everything is in flow , everything is exactly the way it is meant to be . We're not stressed , you don't need to be stressed Like everything is exactly as it should be and it always , it always , it always did that .
Speaker 1Yeah , and you know , I think one of the things that I loved being part of and that I loved witnessing in you guys was after the retreat was over . We had kind of been all talking the whole retreat about how can we give back to the woman who owns the retreat and her assistant , like how can we give back to them to feed them , to nurse them the way that they've been so kind and nourishing us ? And after , after everything was over , we , you know , we we did Reiki for her . Chantel did a card pool . We transferred the money . We did Reiki for her . Chantel did a card pool . We transferred
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Speaker 1the money altar that we had made to her . Chantel staged her house Like we . Christine did some coaching with her , like we were . We were just all holding space for her and and just the . I think I'm just feeling really grateful for the fact that we have a team where we even think about that you know , because I think it's it's .
Speaker 1It would be so much more common for us to just be like peace , you know .
Speaker 1But like we took the time to stay an extra hour and hold space for her , and important , not because like we needed to prove anything or because it was , but just because we loved her and we love yeah , and that was I'm . I'm grateful for you guys for holding that space and to be a part of the team that was able to bring that energy back into the house and feed her and feed the land . And and it was so sweet because when Chantel was doing the card poll and I was doing Reiki on her , she was like I never get to receive and it was like not okay .
Speaker 3Yeah , not okay , like I , even when I was like , okay , are you ready ? Cause she had asked me you know if there's time . And then when I went to her and she goes , oh honey , there's no time . You're you guys ? I'm like , no , I'm good , we're good . And she goes oh , she goes , I never get to receive . And she was like , yes , yes , I'm gonna take it , I'm gonna take it . And she did , and she called me as I smudged her home and she sat with her reading and her reading was exactly what she needed to be able to move forward with her husband and you know her grieving , her grief , all the things were just right there and she was just just like , wow , and you could feel it in her . And then , yeah , you were giving her Reiki and it was just beautiful , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1I feel like that's the that's , that's the takeaway is everybody got what we needed and I'm I'm so grateful for that because it was in our opening ceremony . That was one of my desires . And one of my fears is , like we're we're not in control here , and yet I want everybody to have the experience that they need to have , whatever that looks like and it was . It was so beautiful because by the end of day one , we had sat around and done our top takeaways and every single person by the end of day one was like I'm good , I got what I needed , and I feel like that gave me the permission to be like . You know , it's all just icing on the cake now . And and the fact that spirit came through , that the land came through , that you guys came through , that the retreat goers came through for each other and were able to create such a sacred , powerful , potent space that by the end of day one , everybody was like great that , like that's incredible .
Speaker 3Yeah , I think one of my favorite parts with the sweat well , for me , on my personal was at the very end , when you guys were all coming out and I took a sage stick and I started burning that thing burned all the way down and I was like , yep , we are just , it is releasing , it is clearing out all of this energy . And then when I went to go over to the fire and just felt that energy and pulling it from the earth and the cycling of it , and as I was pulling it in but I had my eyes closed , so I didn't know no one was around me , I was all by myself .
Speaker 3And then , when I opened my eyes up everyone was in a circle and it was like oh , my gosh , feel this , lift your arm and I'm always like I'm transmuting energy , but then I was told no , you're a portal of that energy I'm , I'm cycling through that energy and that was just amazing it was and willing to watch like we didn't .
Speaker 2I didn't know you had your eyes closed , but like I feel like everyone just instantly circled up , everyone , like you had this gravitational pull of like we're still in ceremony , we , we're still in process , we're going to this is the final phase of the sweat lodge , of just honoring all of the work that we have done and , like this final , this final smudge , right , and I , I , just , I just loved it . I love that there was always clear beginnings and clear endings to everything that we did and yet it's still all flowed Exactly Like there was always a moment to take a breath , there was always a moment to integrate , there was always a moment to really feel what you feel and honor it instead of just rushing to the next thing , you know . And so I , I really , I just really loved that .
Speaker 3Yeah , and we all just took our time back up and this land also put the picture out . We were scattered . She has tents and wagons and cabins and camping tents and all kinds of things , and so people were having to truck it like as far as like a mile or a half a mile or something in the dark , and so some were on a further journey and that says a lot for their journey too , you know . And who was closer to the cabin and needed to take care of the home space and those who needed to be spread out to have alone time , and it just all worked Well , any , you know , even for me , like usually I I really need time away to integrate and to sleep .
Speaker 2And I I knew right away like I could I could have stayed in the really fancy super glamp camp tents . And I was like no , it's a teepee . And the host is like , well , if it rains , you're going to get wet . And I'm like , yeah , I'll be , I'll be fine . And , um , it was so beautiful to look through the teepee and watch the stars every night before going to bed and saying my final prayers . And I , and knowing that you know , at the end of the retreat , um , our host was like this is the best weather we have received for any of our retreats .
Speaker 1And then , as soon as we left , it rained .
Speaker 2Yeah Well , I just looked at him like of course we're going to have , like did you , did you ? Like it's us ? Of course we're going to be a little bit of a weather witch too . And as soon as we left the property yeah , I feel like you see it all coming in dark clouds and
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Speaker 2the land was cleansed exactly and I'm like that's exactly the way it should be .
Speaker 3Every time clouds rolled in , I was like and move along and then we got out and they pulled over and went into the store to grab food and we got rained on , we got rained on .
Speaker 1You waited it out , but they were like big fat drops and we're like thank you , yes , we got to go to chakra dance and wiggle it all , integrate it all , move all the energy and and I think that that is also something that I've really appreciated about the whole experience , just kind of start to finish , is how much we've knowing that in order to hold space for others , we have to hold space for ourselves , like how intentional we have been , both as individuals and like all together , of having our ceremonies , having our time to open our circle , to open our energy and then to close it and to integrate and have this time after where we're , we're pulling back in our own pieces and moving and and creating those spaces where , yeah , we were holding space , yeah , we had this big weekend , but you know , it was one of those where Chantel and I were talking in the car and it was like we went to go get dinner and it's like kind of crazy that we hosted a retreat this weekend because we just did such a good job of keeping our energy as our energy that by the time we were back last night getting dinner , it was like and we're back we're back and we're back in life , all good .
Speaker 1You know , yeah , exactly where we started , but very different , yeah .
Speaker 3And how , five days ago I was in , you know , six days ago , in California , tennessee , and we're here , and then we're here in Bozeman , and then we're in Clancy , and then we're back in Bozeman , and then tomorrow we're going home , and it's just how we can , how much you can pack , and you know , just a few days , yeah , and still feel nourished in it . Yeah for sure . And that's an invitation for people too . What can you bring into your life and still hold space for yourself and know that everything outside of that can wait sometimes yeah and then not have to be exhausting , like doing the work doesn't have to be exhausting .
Speaker 2I don't think anyone left exhausted . You know people were excited , they wanted more .
Speaker 1They did . They were like yeah , Enlivened .
Speaker 2And so we do have a um , reclaim your sacred self masterclass at Isabel and I are teaching , and so a lot of our retreat goers are like , yeah , let's keep going . And so we want to open that up for all of our listeners too , that we do have more space , more room to say , yes , we decided to move it out one week because we really wanted to give everyone a chance to travel home and land Like we . Literally we had people who are still traveling today , and so I just felt like that also was an alignment . Like there are some times that we put things on the calendar and it's like we'll finalize as we get closer , feel the energy of it whether that's for soul rising or a masterclass and it just feels like , oh no , that that this feels right . This feels right to give it a week , a week longer , and really have the intention set and the clarity there and really pull the next step forward for everyone , and I love it .
Speaker 2We were looking at who's signed up already and we have people who aren't on our email list and don't know anything about us , and we had the same exact type at the retreat . We had one person never taking classes from us , never done anything shamanic , didn't even know what that word meant , and she just saw our picture and the sign up and she was like I'm yes , and I just I love people who are that in tune with what their soul desires , that they can just say yes , like , and so it's kind of also an invitation of like feeling into what are you like , fuck yes to like what is your like ?
Speaker 2full soul crying out for yes . Yes , I need that , that crystal , yes , I need that course . Yes , I need that nap in the afternoon . Like , what is your soul saying ? I can say yes to this and it's a full hearted yes . And stop denying yourself or getting in that full mental space of I have to be a certain way , or should do this , or I need to do that and like our self-talk of like we can pull ourselves out of it and drop in and going . What does our soul need to feel ? Loved and supported and knowing that if there's a calling there , the divine , the creator , the source energy is going to show up in that yes , with you , so you don't need to worry about very end .
Speaker 1We were really intentional about saying look at what happens when you let go , when you let spirit guide you , when you go with the flow , when you acknowledge the anxieties and the fears and the need to control , and you flow anyway and you look at what your soul needs and you listen to that , look at how magically everything works out . And now you can kind of put that feather in your cap to remind your brain the next time it tries to get anxious or tries to control that . No , look , I have proof
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Speaker 1now that when I flow , when I trust those desires , when I show up , when I listen to the soul level , yes , magic can happen . And so that's another invitation too . As you're doing , that is , can you think of a time when you did listen to your intuition , you did listen to your soul , you did let go and flow a little bit and something magical happened . It all worked out better than you could have imagined , and use that to kind of show your brain like , no , it's okay , it's okay to do this and that's something that we'll dive into in the masterclass .
Speaker 1So if you're listening to this live , we'll start on Monday , july 28th and if you're listening to it later on as a recording , know that the recordings will be available for like an evergreen , self-paced kind of thing so you can come into the container whenever you feel called and we're really going to be diving into sacred masculine and divine , feminine and harmonizing those energies and activating our chakras and our creativity and sacred desires and going with the flow and creating your life as a sacred space so that you can come home to yourself and your inner power and use that .
Speaker 1However it's going to show up , like no matter if your inner power is that kind of quiet , introspective or it's that expressive , like it's just going to be about coming home to the self and taking all of these things that we've been learning and using in our own lives and the energy that we're pulling from the retreat and all of that to to feed back and create this container where you can show up and do the work components , but there's also such a space for , like , support group energy , like really able to creating that sacred circle of showing up in your own voice , in your own space and expressing .
Speaker 2And I am just loving these vulnerable conversations and want to continue them because , honestly , that is just an amazing way for you to really drop in and go . I am sacred , my voice is sacred as I am as sacred . There's nothing to be fixed , because there's nothing that's broken , because I am divine . And so , having that , that mix of yeah , we're going to have activating action , actions to really help support your , your polyvagal nerves , so that you can regulate , but also , in that going , how can we show up and support one another and continue to really just be present fully . So it's super excited for them . Yeah absolutely .
Speaker 3Are we filling ? But no , I just think that , um , I'm very proud of us as women , as leaders , and you know the way we have been brought together and how everything we did this weekend now ripples out into everyone's lives and their piece of the world .
Speaker 1We have a retreat goer who , who just put a little , a little comment on saying thank you so much for your energy . The healing is evident . The last drumming circle , of course , is always so powerful healing , calming , fulfilling . I'm so grateful . So that's the energy we're taking away people . Yeah , absolutely , and I love you guys for it and everything that you guys brought to the table and holding space and showing up and , yeah , incredible , yeah .
Speaker 3Feeling spiritual . It is . Be blessed and enjoy your day . I don't know if we're at closing , but yes , it feels like we are , so yeah .
Speaker 1And until next time , may you awaken to the whispers of wisdom rising from within . Thanks for tuning in to today's show . The Wisdom Rising podcast is sponsored by Moon Rising Shamanic Institute . If you enjoyed this episode , be sure to subscribe to the show on your favorite podcasting app and be the first to know when we release a new episode . You can find us on Instagram , Facebook , YouTube and TikTok at Moon Rising Institute , or visit our website , moonrisinginstitutecom to learn more about our mission and find future opportunities to connect with our community of shamanic mystics . Once again , thank you for sharing space with us today , and until next time , may you awaken to the whispers of wisdom rising from within .